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Postby admin on August 17th, 2012, 11:19 pm #2618884

WASHINGTON — Mitt Romney's presidential campaign Friday rejected a new call from the Obama campaign to release five years of tax returns.In a letter Friday to Romney campaign manager Matt Rhoades, Obama re-election campaign manager Jim Messina pledged that if Romney released five years of tax returns filed from 2007 to 2012, the Obama campaign in turn would stop criticizing ...


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Article Discussion: Romney campaign rejects call for five ye

Postby Chimborazo on August 17th, 2012, 11:35 pm #2618886

I heard a rumor that he does not want to release the tax returns because he filed jointly with his five wives. Rimshot...(I hope my Mormon friends will forgive me for this dumb joke). :D
Seriously though, if he paid a minimum of 13% why not just release them and get this off the news altogether.
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Re: Article Discussion: Romney campaign rejects call for five ye

Postby poyman on August 18th, 2012, 12:08 am #2618896

Romney is not and should not play "Fetch" with the Obama Campaign... Particularly when Mr. Transparentcy won't unseal his College Transcripts or Thesis Papers...

Regardless of how mundane Romney's Tax Returns are, the Dems will send him back looking for supporting documents and line the days with tax reporting questions...i.e. where is your supporting documents for this or that entry? If you don't have the docs you must have lied... When did Ann incur her illness, how does that coincide with the claims that you made in a given year? and so on and so on...

This election is about the Economy, it's about Obama's record, and it's about the impact of his failed policies... And try as he will, Obama is not going to be successful in taking the voters eyes off of those issues.
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Article Discussion: Romney campaign rejects call for five ye

Postby domino on August 18th, 2012, 12:33 am #2618904

When Romney ran for governor of Massachusetts, he refused to release his state income tax reforms because he filed as a Utah resident. Massachusetts has a requirement that one must be a resident of Massachusetts for seven years to be eligible. Romney filed as a Utah resident for the three years he did the Olympics. He filed his Massachusetts income taxes retroactively, proving that he was a liar and in violation of the law.

Why should we take his word about his tax rate?
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Article Discussion: Romney campaign rejects call for five ye

Postby perisan on August 18th, 2012, 12:41 am #2618906

Rombama and Obushma need to compromise a bit on this .

Rombama can show his real tax returns........you know, the ones where he cheated, paid no taxes or whatever the reason he's scared to show them, and Obushma can show his real birth certificate......you know, the one that say's he was born in Kenya, or the one that show's his real daddy as Frank Davis, or even unknown, ..............anything but who he say's his daddy is.........and NO FORGERIES!

Anyway, Rombama and Obushma..the key word for you two phonymaronies is COMPROMISE! Now, giterdone!
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Re: Article Discussion: Romney campaign rejects call for five ye

Postby domino on August 18th, 2012, 12:48 am #2618908

poyman wrote:Romney is not and should not play "Fetch" with the Obama Campaign... Particularly when Mr. Transparentcy won't unseal his College Transcripts or Thesis Papers...

Regardless of how mundane Romney's Tax Returns are, the Dems will send him back looking for supporting documents and line the days with tax reporting questions...i.e. where is your supporting documents for this or that entry? If you don't have the docs you must have lied... When did Ann incur her illness, how does that coincide with the claims that you made in a given year? and so on and so on...

This election is about the Economy, it's about Obama's record, and it's about the impact of his failed policies... And try as he will, Obama is not going to be successful in taking the voters eyes off of those issues.


College Transcripts and Thesis? Gimme a break. Where is the precedent for that? Income Taxes have been released since George Romney ran for president.

"This election is about the Economy, it's about Obama's record, and it's about the impact of his failed policies" is what you hope it will be about. Now, no matter how many times Romney tries to change the subject, the issue now is about why Romney will not release his taxes and explain his tax avoidance with secret foreign bank accounts. Was Romney paying his fair share?
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Re: Article Discussion: Romney campaign rejects call for five ye

Postby jinxed13 on August 18th, 2012, 1:38 am #2618917

Romney doesn't need to release 5 years of tax returns just because "The Great Vacationer" demands that he do so. Obama's idea of transparency is "transparent like a lead door" and he refuses to release anything relevant about himself or Michelle, demanding that everyone read his book and believe what he told his ghost writers about the history Obama manufactured for himself. Where's the explanation for the Connecticut Social Security Number Obama has when he never lived in that state? When you look at the so-called birth certificate he released, it isn't hard to see that it is fraudulent, and all it really takes to figure out is looking up a little history for the year he was born. Maybe his family never applied for his birth certificate. How about explaining why Michelle and he surrendered their law licenses? One can go on and on about what Obama and his wife refuse to release or discuss which should be relevant to American voters, so his demand that Romney release more tax returns is absurd and laughable. What is known is that Obama and Biden aren't big on giving to charity. Romney donates a great deal of money to charity and undoubtedly tithes a great deal to the Mormon Church.
You generally won't find a Mormon collecting AFDC, food stamps, or other government hand outs to families as the Mormon Church uses some of the money it collects in tithes to take care of those members who have fallen on hard times or need support and assistance. Mormons have also been known to provide assistance to families that aren't members of their church. Living in the Four Corners Area of New Mexico with a large Mormon population, I learned a great deal about their faith and charitable works within the community. This election should be about issues, high unemployment, high national debt, bail outs, oil and gas independence, issues of importance -- tax returns are nothing but a distraction the Obama/Biden ticked hopes will occupy the attention of voters as they don't want to discuss the many failures of their administration. "The Gaffe Master" Biden once said that we have to "spend our way out of bankruptcy" and with that mentality, they are bound to create an even greater national debt than they already have, and blaming Bush isn't working -- it's time they take the blame for the mess they have been creating. As for the economy, what works for the average American also works for government. If you don't have the money, don't spend the money. Don't spend money today that you think you'll be getting in the future. The average American understands that it's over spending that gets you into bankruptcy, not overspending to get yourself out of bankruptcy. I also have never heard any American complain of having too few IRS agents involved in their lives and when the IRS took over the operation of the Mustang Ranch when Joe Conforte fled the US to avoid paying back taxes, they didn't make a profit and had to sell the historic brothel at auction. Any agency that can't sell loving, Lewinsky's and liquor to long haul truckers has proven that they lack business accumen and shouldn't be involved in health insurance and care.
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Article Discussion: Romney campaign rejects call for five ye

Postby RocknRule on August 18th, 2012, 1:45 am #2618918

Romney should take a page from one of the most famous, Republican presidents, Richard Nixon's playbook and make his campaign slogan --- "I am not a crook!"
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Article Discussion: Romney campaign rejects call for five ye

Postby loupgarous on August 18th, 2012, 2:26 am #2618923

Honest conversation with the Obama campaign:

Q: What happened to the $500 million in our money Obama gave Solyndra?
A: Romney won't release his tax returns.

Q: How are we going to get out of Afghanistan?
A: Romney won't release his tax returns. And he's a millionaire.

Q: How, exactly, did Obama manage to increase the Federal debt in three and a half years to more than Bush's administration did in eight years - when he promised to CUT the deficit, first thing, when he was running for President?
A: We can't answer that one until Romney releases at least five years of tax returns. And Bain Capital made a lot of money shelling out companies while Romney was off saving the Winter Olympics.

Q: Where's the "unprecedented transparency" Obama promised us before he was sworn in as President? The televised debates on health care? The deficit reduction? The bipartisanship? The clean government that wouldn't DARE violate Federal law? The health care plan that wouldn't raise our taxes or cost more than what we had before?
A: Romney wants to cut millionaires' taxes by 250,000 dollars. And he won't publish his personal records as we asked.

Q: Isn't it true that Romney pays such a low tax bracket because he gives $3 million a year to charity (as opposed to Obama's quarter of a million?)
A: We won't answer that until we get something juicy out of the Romney tax returns.

Q: Why won't Obama give Congress information on the transfer of assault weapons under Federal supervision to Mexican drug cartels?
A: We cut our demands down to five years of Romney's tax refunds and he STILL won't fork them over.

Q: Does the President seriously intend to run on his record?
A: No comment.

Q: How many million dollars have the Obamas spent of our money on vacations during a "great depression"?
A: Romney's wife hasn't worked a day in her life and we don't care if she has multiple sclerosis - she shouldn't be riding registered horses for therapy. Under the Obama health care plan, we'd cut that down to a Shetland pony.

Q: Why should we believe Obama's promises now, when he kept so few of them from 2008?
A: Hey, smart guy, how about we send the IRS over for YOUR tax returns?
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Re: Article Discussion: Romney campaign rejects call for five ye

Postby loupgarous on August 18th, 2012, 2:32 am #2618924

RocknRule wrote:Romney should take a page from one of the most famous, Republican presidents, Richard Nixon's playbook and make his campaign slogan --- "I am not a crook!"


Pretty smart talk when it's Obama's attorney general stonewalling Congress on Operation Fast and Furious, and his buddies at Solyndra who lost half a billion dollars in Federal tax money.
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Re: Article Discussion: Romney campaign rejects call for five ye

Postby loupgarous on August 18th, 2012, 2:38 am #2618925

domino wrote:
poyman wrote:Romney is not and should not play "Fetch" with the Obama Campaign... Particularly when Mr. Transparentcy won't unseal his College Transcripts or Thesis Papers...

Regardless of how mundane Romney's Tax Returns are, the Dems will send him back looking for supporting documents and line the days with tax reporting questions...i.e. where is your supporting documents for this or that entry? If you don't have the docs you must have lied... When did Ann incur her illness, how does that coincide with the claims that you made in a given year? and so on and so on...

This election is about the Economy, it's about Obama's record, and it's about the impact of his failed policies... And try as he will, Obama is not going to be successful in taking the voters eyes off of those issues.


College Transcripts and Thesis? Gimme a break. Where is the precedent for that? Income Taxes have been released since George Romney ran for president.

"This election is about the Economy, it's about Obama's record, and it's about the impact of his failed policies" is what you hope it will be about. Now, no matter how many times Romney tries to change the subject, the issue now is about why Romney will not release his taxes and explain his tax avoidance with secret foreign bank accounts. Was Romney paying his fair share?


And Presidents have run on their records for longer than there even WAS income tax.

Why is Obama afraid to run on his?

You're damned right we hope that this campaign is about Obama's performance as President. What did you hope it would be about?

Romney has obeyed the law, no matter what else he did on his tax returns.
It's hard to find a Democratic politician on Capitol Hill who hasn't done some insider trading, starting with Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the House while the Democrats controlled the House.

The issue SHOULD be not what Mitt Romney did with HIS money, but what Barack Obama did with OURS. I seriously doubt that Mitt Romney avoided paying in tax what the Obamas' vacations have cost the taxpayers.
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Re: Article Discussion: Romney campaign rejects call for five ye

Postby loupgarous on August 18th, 2012, 2:54 am #2618928

Chimborazo wrote:I heard a rumor that he does not want to release the tax returns because he filed jointly with his five wives. Rimshot...(I hope my Mormon friends will forgive me for this dumb joke). :D
Seriously though, if he paid a minimum of 13% why not just release them and get this off the news altogether.


And if Obama's done so much good for the country, why not just run on his record instead of distracting the voters with someone else's tax records?

Think the Obamas got their "fair share" of vacation time? I don't recall the Air Force flying me and my wife to Hawaii or Spain. In fact, try as hard as I can, I can't find ANYONE in my neighborhood who spent two weeks in Martha's Vineyard at Federal expense, much less around the world.

How about we see if Mitt Romney saved in taxes what we spent on the Obamas' vacations?

And why isn't this election about a very careful audit of Barack Obama's performance as President, and how closely he has obeyed the law of the land?

Why isn't it about how Barack Obama managed to run the deficit higher in three years and a few months than Bush did in eight?

Why are the Obama campaign and his supporters so worried about Mitt Romney's "fair share" when they should be accounting to us for all the money Barack Obama has cost us, and the mess he's about to make of our health care?

Why isn't Barack Obama explaining to America's retirees why 719 billion dollars have been taken from the Medicare Fund to pay for Obama's Magical Mystery Tour through the Health Care economy?
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Re: Article Discussion: Romney campaign rejects call for five ye

Postby loupgarous on August 18th, 2012, 3:06 am #2618932

domino wrote:When Romney ran for governor of Massachusetts, he refused to release his state income tax reforms because he filed as a Utah resident. Massachusetts has a requirement that one must be a resident of Massachusetts for seven years to be eligible. Romney filed as a Utah resident for the three years he did the Olympics. He filed his Massachusetts income taxes retroactively, proving that he was a liar and in violation of the law.

Why should we take his word about his tax rate?


And why should we be worrying about it at all? The IRS has undoubtedly gone through Romney's tax returns with a fine-tooth comb. THEY couldn't find anything wrong.

However, our highly politicized IRS has been telling its examiners under Obama's admininstration to ignore tax returns filed by illegal aliens and others claiming earned income credits for dependents who don't exist - in a few cases up to a dozen, who if they do exist, do so overseas (where their existence can't be verified).

Think the collective funds disbursed to these people equal Romney's legal tax exemptions?

This is all about one of the most corrupt Presidential administrations since Grant's distracting our national attention with rumors and lies when they're in a great position to prove any real wrongdoing.
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Re: Article Discussion: Romney campaign rejects call for five ye

Postby TurboElf on August 18th, 2012, 3:11 am #2618933

Mitt romney doesn't want the truth out....that the Wall St elite is screwing the whole country. While lobbying to change the tax laws and loopholes they also are demanding socialist bailouts from the evil "guvmint". He is really is an amazing amalgamation, as he is the only GOP'er that perfectly embodies the Wall St casino mentality, big government health care as well as just being a rich boy that made all his millions through daddy's connections like his buck buddy Trump.

He cares more about the Cayman Islands than America.

Why would you hire someone who screws the country to run the country?
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Re: Article Discussion: Romney campaign rejects call for five ye

Postby sealbee on August 18th, 2012, 3:28 am #2618934

TurboElf wrote:Mitt romney doesn't want the truth out....that the Wall St elite is screwing the whole country. While lobbying to change the tax laws and loopholes they also are demanding socialist bailouts from the evil "guvmint". He is really is an amazing amalgamation, as he is the only GOP'er that perfectly embodies the Wall St casino mentality, big government health care as well as just being a rich boy that made all his millions through daddy's connections like his buck buddy Trump.

He cares more about the Cayman Islands than America.

Why would you hire someone who screws the country to run the country?


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Article Discussion: Romney campaign rejects call for five ye

Postby y-not on August 18th, 2012, 3:51 am #2618939

What's Willard hiding, and why should we take his word for it when it comes to his tax rate - which is far below what many working American men and women pay.

This issue is not going away, no matter how devoutly Willard might wish it would.
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Re: Article Discussion: Romney campaign rejects call for five ye

Postby y-not on August 18th, 2012, 3:54 am #2618941

RocknRule wrote:Romney should take a page from one of the most famous, Republican presidents, Richard Nixon's playbook and make his campaign slogan --- "I am not a crook!"


He should also take a page from his father's book and make 20 years of his returns public.

Since he demanded and got many years of returns from those his lackeys pushed on him for Veep, should the American people expect any less from the man running for the highest office in the land?

The life of an honorable man is an open book; that of the dishonorable one is filled with redactions.
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Re: Article Discussion: Romney campaign rejects call for five ye

Postby jgd777 on August 18th, 2012, 4:31 am #2618951

y-not wrote:
RocknRule wrote:Romney should take a page from one of the most famous, Republican presidents, Richard Nixon's playbook and make his campaign slogan --- "I am not a crook!"


He should also take a page from his father's book and make 20 years of his returns public.

Since he demanded and got many years of returns from those his lackeys pushed on him for Veep, should the American people expect any less from the man running for the highest office in the land?

The life of an honorable man is an open book; that of the dishonorable one is filled with redactions.


The word honorable has different meanings based on a person's political position. In the case of Romney's tax record, Romney paying his legal tax liability is being honorable, however for liberals Romney would have pay what the liberals consider his fair share to be honorable. The liberals have only one purpose for demanding Romney's tax record and that is they want to make a moral judgement on the amount or percentage he paid in taxes. Personally I think we should be making a moral judgement how much and on what the government is spending our tax money.
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Article Discussion: Romney campaign rejects call for five ye

Postby mythoughts on August 18th, 2012, 4:56 am #2618960

Things that concern me:
Our increased dependence on Saudi oil
The price of fuel
Our debt
Entitlement spending
Unemployment

How much Romney had to pay in taxes is based on our overly complicated tax code that he didn't write and he did as I do. Use that tax code to minimize the government's confiscation of what I have earned.
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Article Discussion: Romney campaign rejects call for five ye

Postby MILEHIGH4 on August 18th, 2012, 5:14 am #2618970

The Democrats must have found something in Mitt Romney's tax returns that Romney doesn't want people to know. I read somewhere that he didn't turn in a Form TD F 90-22.1 on his foreign bank accounts for several years and ask for amnesty and was successful in receiving amnesty. If that is the case releasing those tax returns would hurt his campaign more than not releasing them.
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